We already have. Where do you think motherfucking comes from?
Allusion to incest. For when fornication just won’t cut it any more.
This is an old finding. 150 years ago, damn could not appear in print unredacted.
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Is it veridical to state that esoteric verbosity culminates in communicative ennui?
The true and honest and equitable answer is the Magister’s: Michael Masiello’s answer to Is it veridical to state that esoteric verbosity culminates in communicative ennui? Vote #1 Michael Masiello. Vote early and vote often.
The petty and cavilling answer is mine. Others have gone part of the way there, but I’ll finish the task.
No, it is not veridical to state that esoteric verbosity culminates in communicative ennui. Because those are not synonyms of “is it true to say that using obscure words ends up in people getting bored with how you talk”. Big words have nuance. Big words have subtlety. Big words are there for a reason. That’s why you’re supposed to use them sparingly.
- Veridical does not mean “true”. It means “truth-telling”. It refers to a commitment to reflecting the world accurately, it’s not something you can accidentally blurt out or stumble upon. And there’s a good reason the word is mostly used in psychology and philosophy, domains that are concerned with people’s commitment to truth.
- Esoteric does not just mean “obscure”, it means understood only by very few select people, who are initiated into knowledge. The Greek means “insider”. It’s not the kind of thing that any fool can pick up a dictionary and learn; it’s supposed to be secret, and there’s a reason its connotation is one of cults and guilds.
- Culminates refers to something that builds up gradually to a climax or achievement of some kind. You don’t culminate into a passive state, such as ennui. That’s your classic parturiunt montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. (Or anticlimax, if you prefer.)
- Ennui is not just boredom. It might be just boredom in French, but that’s not how the word is used in English. In English, it refers to the kind of existential, weary, discontented boredom that makes you give up on life itself. A misplaced hyperbolic reaction to being bored by someone’s big words.
- And communicative ennui does not sound like ennui about the communications you hear. It sounds like ennui about the communications you make. Like you’re questioning whether it’s worth continuing to live, as you’re stuck making inane smalltalk.
- Or belittling people’s vocabulary.
Is there a lot of old people in Quora?
The only source of demographics on Quora there has been is the departed Laura Hale’s blog quora numbers, gathered manually and laboriously. For this question, via Facebook. See:
National breakdowns of by age participation on Quora by Laura Hale on quora numbers
75% of US users. 42% of Indian users.
What would be your epic last words?
An adolescent question like this deserves an adolescent poem as its answer. Here’s one I prepared earlier. As an adolescent, in fact.
Taktas jarojn tiuj, kiuj dankas
Dion – trance, kun vagstulta fido.
Trafas kraŝon tiuj, kiuj tranĉas
por si hastan vojon – kun venkrido.
Tanĝas homojn tiuj, kiuj talpas
mensizole, ĉar en si kontentas.
Transas homojn tiuj, kiuj drakas
homestrante, ĉar laŭ si potencas.
Taksas vivon tiuj, kiuj taskas,
je pasumo de jaraĉoj dorme.
Miliardoj vojas kaj fiaskas,
sin-malŝpare, por malvivi morne.
Foja korpo pli ol ni meritas,
ke pluvivu: tiun ni ŝtonumas,
kaj pluvivas mem ĝis preteritas.
Super niaj tomboj, tagoj lumas
sen ni. Tial traktas la drastantoj vivon,
kiel aviadonto aŭtobus-tarifon.
Love that jingle–jangle assonance. Happy to make an exit that way.
Oh, you want a translation? It’d kind of spoil it, because it is adolescent (and I wouldn’t be as unforgiving now), but OK:
Those who thank God measure out
their years in a trance, with vaguely dumb faith.
Those who cut themselves a hasty way
hit a crash, with a victorious laugh.
Those who mole away in mental isolation
are tangential to people, for they are content in themselves.
Those who are dragons commanding men
are beyond people, for they are powerful according to themselves.
Those who have a job to do value life
as a passing of miserable years in sleep.
Billions make their way and fail,
wasting themselves, to be extinguished mourningly.
The occasional body deserves to keep living
more than us. So we stone them,
and keep living ourselves until we are in the past tense.
Above our graves, days shine
without us. That’s why the drastic treat
life, like someone about to board a flight treats the bus ticket.
A Veridical harvest
Is it veridical to state that esoteric verbosity culminates in communicative ennui? has triggered this from me:
- Esoteric does not just mean “obscure”, it means understood only by very few select people, who are initiated into knowledge. The Greek means “insider”. It’s not the kind of thing that any fool can pick up a dictionary and learn; it’s supposed to be secret, and there’s a reason its connotation is one of cults and guilds.
- Ennui is not just boredom. It might be just boredom in French, but that’s not how the word is used in English. In English, it refers to the kind of existential, weary, discontented boredom that makes you give up on life itself. A misplaced hyperbolic reaction to being bored by someone’s big words.
It has triggered this from the Magister:
Neither of these motives seems particularly noble or intelligent to me. One might say that the deployment of polysyllabic grandiloquence by a querent, whether the intentional dimensions of the utterance are defined by pavonine preening or the self-consuming ironization of discursive modes nonetheless known to the inquirer in an unsubtle, reductive, and ultimately anti-intellectual intimation that all such verbiage is vapid, is hardly laudable.
- querent
- The most delightful obscure words: grandiloquent, polysyllabic
ironization:
Straightforwardly, the nominalisation of IRONIZE: “to make ironic in appearance or effect; to use irony : speak or behave ironically”. Not in the obvious online dictionaries, and not in OED either.
From the googles, there is also usage related to iron instead of irony:
https://www.va.gov/vetapp15/File…
Concerning the issue of the Veteran's entitlement to service connection for a dental disorder, to include ironization and loss of teeth and bone loss, for VA compensation purposes, the Veteran alleges in a June 2013 statement that, within a year from returning from service in Vietnam, his teeth began falling out. He recalls that his private dentist at that time told him that he had "ironization of the gums" due to excessive levels of iron in his system which he alleges resulted from drinking, over an eight year period, water in Vietnam that had been purified by iron tablets. The Veteran alleges further that he was told years later that he had sustained "massive bone loss."
Ironization (Urban Dictionary):
The process by which an individual “iron-lungs” a vape hit. Withholding vapor to the cages of the lungs in order to increase buzz probability.
Also, can be used to refer to withholding marijuana in the chest to increase the chances of THC absorption.
The breaking down of nicotine in the lungs to increase the passing to the brain.
You just ironized the fuck out of that vape bro.
The ironization of that hit was almost passed threshold.
Holy fuck Bill, that ironization could have killed you if you held it any longer.
laudable:
worthy of praise : commendable She has shown a laudable devotion to her children.
A Nicholas favourite, that one.
intimation:
the act of intimating, or making known indirectly.
a hint; suggestion: The death of his father was his first intimation of mortality.
Intimation of (im)mortality is an allusion to Ode: Intimations of Immortality by Wordsworth.
vapid:
lacking or having lost life, sharpness, or flavor; insipid; flat: vapid tea.
without liveliness or spirit; dull or tedious: a vapid party; vapid conversation.
“My generation, the millennials, are so often viewed in a negative light. We are described with the words ‘lazy’, ‘entitled’, and ‘vapid’. I want to help combat this by growing an image of a young person who does not need to fit these titles, for whom the boom of technology has expanded horizons rather than spoiling attitude.” (No Shrinking Violet: Leah Pritchett dispenses doses of healthy advice by Archie D’Cruz on Quoran of the Week)
pavonine:
Loved this one, because I knew the Latin of it!
- of, relating to, or resembling the peacock
- colored like a peacock’s tail or neck : iridescent
- of the color peacock
Latin pavoninus, from pavon-, pavo peacock + -inus -ine
The metaphorical allusion here is to the proverbial vanity of peacocks; e.g.
1. Of or resembling a peacock.
2. Vain; showy.“The artists were attacked for being a narcissistic, pavonine, and self-regarding group.”
Arifa Akbar; The Cult of Beauty; The Independent (London, UK); Mar 29, 2011.
Blog Guidelines
The Argologue (“listing of the inactive”) is a community blog for tracking Quora users who have deactivated their accounts. It is a sister blog to Necrologue, but it is run differently:
- Submissions are welcomed from any Quora user, about either their own deactivation or others’.
- Submissions are welcomed for either deactivations or reactivations.
- There is no fixed template, and no editorial intervention by the blog owner (me) other than approving posts.
- BNBR continues to apply, in content and comments.
- There is no requirement that you wait to confirm before posting a deactivation. (You may want to do so anyway.)
- Deactivations by themselves are no longer in scope of Necrologue, and notifications of deactivation will be redirected to this blog.
- Deactivations with an accompanying quit notice are still in scope of Necrologue, if the quit notices indicate that the user is departing Quora permanently, or temporarily for reasons internal to Quora.
vertiginous
If you can still believe in naive teleology after you read this essay by Stephen Jay Gould , try reading it again. And the panda’s thumb, I’m afraid, is the tip of a vertiginous iceberg.
Look, not to experience emotional distress, you have to be willing not to experience emotional exaltation. No suffering means no vertiginous peaks of shared joy.
Michael Masiello’s answer to What is Ludwig van Beethoven’s greatest work and why?
his heights are so vertiginous that one gets a nosebleed thinking about them
- a : characterized by or suffering from vertigo or dizziness; b : inclined to frequent and often pointless change : inconstant
- causing or tending to cause dizziness the vertiginous heights
- marked by turning : rotary the vertiginous motion of the earth
“Vertiginous,” from the Latin vertiginosus, is the adjective form of “vertigo,” which in Latin means a turning or whirling action. Both words descend from the Latin verb vertere, meaning “to turn.” (“Vertiginous” and “vertigo” are just two of an almost dizzying array of “vertere” offspring, from “adverse” to “vortex.”) The “dizzying” sense of “vertiginous” is often used figuratively, as in “vertiginous medical discoveries may drastically change life in the 21st century.”
The name of the blog
The name of this blog was put up to a poll: New Blog for Deactivated Quora Users by Nick Nicholas on Assorted Polls
The people of Quora can name the blog whatever they want, so long as they choose one of the four obscure Hellenic names I’ve just made up for it.
The results were:
- Argologue: “List of the inactive”: 35%
- Apontologue: “List of the absent”: 31%
- Phygologue: “List of those who have run away”: 19%
- Ecdemologue: “List of those who are out of town”: 15%
The results did not astonish me. Ecdemologue is the oddest looking in English, with the <cd> cluster. Argologue looks the most familiar in English, because of Argo and Argon. (There’s two meanings of argos in Ancient Greek: “shining” and “idle, inert, slow”. Argo is the first one; Argon is the second one. And the icon of the blog is, of course, an Argon lamp illustrating the abbreviation of the element: Argon – Wikipedia.)
The other two choices were in between. Too many syllables in Apontologue, and I’m surprised it got as many votes as it did. Decidedly alien look to Phygologue, and kind of loaded meaning, so not surprised it got as few votes as it did.
Do you think there is a mother language for all the other languages?
Nick Nicholas’ answer to Why are there so many languages in the world?
Firstly, because we are not even sure that there was monogenesis of language. That is, we are not sure whether language originated in a single contiguous community of humans, or multiple communities.
Myself, I suspect there was monogenesis, but that’s a hunch; and the serious work on the origins of language is subsequent to my training as a linguist, so I’m not across it.
But even if there were a single origin of language, any trace of it is long since effaced, under the waves of language change after language change, millennium after millennium. In our mental and scholarly modelling of how languages have come to be, the single mother language doesn’t make any difference: there could have been one, there could have been a hundred, we’ll never know. So it doesn’t matter to me.
Do you think these Anglo-Celtic Australians are pretty?
I have answered this question with regard to one of the Anglo-Celtic Australians pictured: Nick Nicholas’ answer to Do you think Australian singer Delta Goodrem is pretty? My answer is no different for the other three Anglo-Celtic Australians.